Could Rise of Global Swing States Reduce US Interest in Europe?

In this podcast, GMF Transatlantic Fellow Dr. Dan Kliman and Sciences Po Paris Professor Alfredo Valladão discuss GMF's new publication, Global Swing States: Brazil, India, Turkey, Indonesia, and the Future of International Order.

Dan Kliman explains why the rise of these four powerful democracies could be of economic and political interest to the United States of America, and renew and strengthen the current global order. Alfredo Valladão argues that if America shifts its focus towards these global swing states, it could ''devalue" the influence of Europe and other international organizations in the world order.